A little while ago, I speculated (blogs are good for that sort of thing) about hexavalent carbon, and noted how one often needs to make (retrospectively) obvious connections between two different areas of chemistry. That post has attracted a number of comments in the two years its been up, along the lines: what about carboranes? So here I have decided to explore that portal into boron chemistry. The starting point is the reported crystal structure of a molecule containing a CH12B11– anion (DOI: 10.1021/ja00201a073). This differs from the molecule I previously reported in having not so much 5C-C + 1C-H bonds around a single carbon, but instead 5B-C + 1C-H bonds. The basic cluster is much in fashion (as B12Cl122-) for its properties as a non-coordinating counterion.