Re: It's time for practical XML!

Dave Winer (dave@userland.com)
Sun, 04 Oct 1998 05:26:03 -0700


We looked at WDDX and saw that it was a subset of XML-RPC.

http://www.scripting.com/frontier5/xml/code/rpc.html

WDDX makes no statement about transport. We're going to look at supporting
it, but we're already deploying apps that do this stuff, along with
WebMethods and others, have been since March. Allaire still has to settle
on a transport (we suggest HTTP).

Also, XML-RPC made Infoworld back in July, along with an interesting note
that Microsoft is somehow involved:

http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?980710.whsoap.htm

I would argue that XML is about working together. We have tremendous
respect for Allaire. It would be wonderful if we could build applications
that combine the capabilities of Cold Fusion and Frontier. We're inches
away from this, and a little bit of building on each others' strengths is
all it takes.

Dave

At 07:16 PM 10/3/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>XML does not need a killer app. It is
>>not a solution unto itself. It is a
>>handy tool for doing real-world work.
>
>
>... and ...
>
>>To them I say: Please, please, stop writing new
>>specs, and help us all by writing real apps.
>
>
>I'm sorry to point people on this list to the same technology again in less
>than a week. Nevertheless, do check the Web Distributed Data Exchange (WDDX)
>technology out. It is free, it works right now, and it can be used to solve
>a broad range of problems that real-world web and non-web applications have
>to deal with.
>
>WDDX uses an XML 1.0 representation of data structures. It hides the details
>of XML processing on purpose. This is important because it gives WDDX the
>flexibility to leverage new XML standards as they become accepted and tool
>support for them becomes available. That's our way to solve the problem of
>the rapidly changing XML landscape w/o delaying the ship of useful
>technologies.
>
>The main WDDX site is at http://www.allaire.com/developer/wddx . The
>following article about WDDX made it to the cover page of this week's
>InfoWorld: http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayIcommerce.pl?prophet.htm
>
>

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